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[Dusty]

class select is going to look something like this:


hold dat

Arrrrgh bad illusionist portrait compared to others.

[RebelINS]

Man the vanilla classes look good, shame no one will ever use them.

Btw, what exactly does haste (I think thats what it is) on the red mage do? It doesnt seem to do anything when I cast it on myself and team mates.

It increases run speed.

[Yuko]

Looks fantastic, keep up the good work. Also, the black borders remind me of DotA and that makes me wonder how a hero would transfer over to INS. I think it'd be pretty easy considering they already have abilities set in stone. You like Axe, right?

[RebelINS]

Axe wouldn't really fit in because his skills don't fit. I don't like percentage based skills because it doesn't promote skill; it promotes rng manipulation.

I like Windrunner too and she would fit a lot more.

[Yuko]

If only I could code. You have 2 empty neutral slots though, if you don't have anything planned already I'm sure WR would be a nice addition.

[RebelINS]

I have two empty neutral slots because that's how many I could fit evenly into 3 rows of 9. I don't have any intention of adding any new classes at least until I completely finish everyone (mainly Yuna). When that time comes, I have tons of room to add new classes (notice that I left a lot of area on the screen).

The problem with many MOBA classes is that their skills don't tend to transfer well into this mod.

I've said it before somewhere that I would really dislike traditional-style stuns (can't attack or move during), because they take the fun away from the guy getting stunned. Normally this isn't as big of a problem in MOBA games, because you can just build up items for more health, armor, anti-cc, etc., but in INSmod, you don't have that option. I've contemplated this decision a long time ago when I first added Dante (though about Cerberus crystal attack).

Most individual classes kill so quickly that anything that disables would pretty much be a free kill. Mobility is such an important part of the gg2 metagame. Imagine how bullshit a windrunner shackleshot into a tassadar psionic storm would be.

Besides that, I do take a lot of inspiration from certain MOBA hero skills. More things with positional mechanics, unique attacks, buffs and debuffs. I'll steer clear from percentage based things (critical hits, dodge chance, chance to proc, etc), most disables, and silence.

[Humble Master]

What is MOBA?

Also some ideas for neutral characters

The Securuty Officer from the Marathon Game series
Steve from Minecraft
Batman
Gandolf
James Bond

[RebelINS]

moba = multiplayer online battle arena, aka dota

I'm not taking any requests for character additions.

[RebelINS]

anyone want to help me come up with some archetypes/roles that i can throw on the class select?
So far i can think of: melee/close/mid/long range, burst DPS, zone DPS, tank, mobile, offensive/defensive support, stealth.
For example, Vein would be close&mid ranged, zone DPS, tank, mobile.
Tassadar would be mid ranged, zone DPS, offensive and defensive support.
Xan would be close & mid ranged, burst DPS, tank.

Maybe a rating system overall instead? Like mario kart racers or something.

[AcidLead]

anyone want to help me come up with some archetypes/roles that i can throw on the class select?
So far i can think of: melee/close/mid/long range, burst DPS, zone DPS, tank, mobile, offensive/defensive support, stealth.
For example, Vein would be close&mid ranged, zone DPS, tank, mobile.
Tassadar would be mid ranged, zone DPS, offensive and defensive support.
Xan would be close & mid ranged, burst DPS, tank.

Maybe a rating system overall instead? Like mario kart racers or something.

Compare them to straight-up GG2 classes.
Something like one of each original class's icon followed by stars for how close/how much of an attribute.
Runner for raw move speed and bonus capture power. Maybe one star for a scattergun-like.
Rocketman for having a rocket-like or reliance on rocket mobility.
Firebug for strength of DOT and/or anti-spy capability. Add one star just to show the character has a DOT, maybe?
Et cetera.

This would help people figure out roles, but it's not as straightforward as a different approach like straight-up stats or summat.

[RebelINS]

Problem with that is that melee is hard to compare. Quote comparison is a joke. Dante = ?

[MAY HEGEHOG]

jack of all trades role

[RebelINS]

well i finished typing out (more like copy-pasting from the old stuff) all the class select text descriptions and roles. now all i have to do is add flavor text (meower/acidlead/vein give me a hand you dingleberries), and DRAW ALL THE PORTRAITS aka the most fun and tedious part.

But first, I'm going to work on Yuna, because that has been long overdue.

I'll do another video sometime for a periodic update.
hint for next map i'm working on:

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moving gears, vertical layout, possibly a tower

[Kalir]

Medusa heads?

[RebelINS]

 

also i cleaned up the bahamut walk a bit so that it is smoother now.

can't really spend the time to make it a 8 frame cycle, because it would be too inconsistent with the rest of the game.