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Author Topic: Spectators to not be counted as players  (Read 2056 times)

Kevin Kuntz

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Spectators to not be counted as players
« on: March 09, 2018, 08:42:29 am »

I want spectators to not be counted as players because i think it's misleading to host dedicated and have boris afk in your server so an average gg2 player(which we all know these people are stupid) would join expecting a fight
Maybe like, after 30 seconds and if the server isn't almost full they're not counted
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 09:41:57 am »

Then spectator joins a team and suddenly server is 13/12.

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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 09:44:51 am »

oh well i mean spectators aren't exactly counted in the lobby, just afkers and people watching
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 10:03:48 am »

I want spectators to not be counted as players because i think it's misleading to host dedicated and have boris afk in your server so an average gg2 player(which we all know these people are stupid) would join expecting a fight
Maybe like, after 30 seconds and if the server isn't almost full they're not counted

I totally agree with you... =/
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 03:31:06 pm »

disallow spectators on pub servers
make it a host option: no spectating ever, no spectating when server full/near full like VIP pass, spectating as normal

there is no reason a pub should be spectating except to pad playercount
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2018, 03:49:05 pm »

Buolets has a good point, but other than the host I rarely see someone spectating
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2018, 05:56:59 pm »

How would it notify the player? Any warnings?

Selecting the spectator team initiates a player kick?

A vip pw to spectate is kinda iffy.
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 11:37:15 pm »

Buolets has a good point, but other than the host I rarely see someone spectating
Well no one spectates, they just afk until they wanna play
disallow spectators on pub servers
make it a host option: no spectating ever, no spectating when server full/near full like VIP pass, spectating as normal

there is no reason a pub should be spectating except to pad playercount
That's basically the problem, going to a server with 6 players to find out it's 2 idiots on 2cp_kulay is just annoying
How would I notify the player? Any warnings?

Selecting the spectator team initiates a player kick?

A vip pw to spectate is kinda iffy.
1. well there could say AFK on their screen
2.there is autokicking but if no one uses it there's a problem
3.nope, there shouldn't be a vip password, just a afk notice and that's it
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2018, 02:16:56 am »

I don't see any way this makes basic logical sense. I don't mean as in "ha ha that's so illogical" but rather I literally can't figure out how you want this to work.
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2018, 03:03:09 am »

When we're talking about spectators, just do what bullets requested. Add an option that only lets the host spectate and if a player is AFK in-game for too long, then the server kicks him out. There's almost always like 1-2 non-host players who spectate in the server and don't do anything at all.

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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2018, 03:12:05 am »

Maybe the host should raise their player limit slightly.

Spectating is a vital part of how brand new players learn how games work.
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2018, 04:26:42 am »

I don't see any way this makes basic logical sense. I don't mean as in "ha ha that's so illogical" but rather I literally can't figure out how you want this to work.
Basically, if someone is afk for too long in a server, the server displayed in the lobby will have 0 players if no one else is playing
When we're talking about spectators, just do what bullets requested. Add an option that only lets the host spectate and if a player is AFK in-game for too long, then the server kicks him out. There's almost always like 1-2 non-host players who spectate in the server and don't do anything at all.
there is auto kicking but my problem is no server (other than parisian paradise) uses it and that annoys me too much
Maybe the host should raise their player limit slightly.

Spectating is a vital part of how brand new players learn how games work.
yeah well new players can spectate, and others who just want to spectate can do nothing
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2018, 05:35:09 am »

the way you would make it work is ignore "n2"
afks get kicked directly out of the server

>Spectating is a vital part of how brand new players learn how games work.

LOOL WHAT
you learn virtually nothing by spectating gg2
look at braindead pubs because if you knew who's good you wouldn't need to spectate
you learn how good players play by fighting them
the only thing i learned from spectating is that my mouse sens is higher than heenok on 4/20 compared to most players


also to clarify VIP pass, i mean the host would set a threshold for playercount past which spectating would be disabled, just like VIP pass gets enabled past a threshold.
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2018, 09:50:02 am »

Sorry but people really do learn things about games they've never played before by watching other people play them.
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Re: Spectators to not be counted as players
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2018, 09:58:44 am »

yes, people can learn something by looking at it themselves
but were talking about gg2 in 2018, no one's a logical smart person, Most people just play gg2 because they can't run tf2 themselves
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