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[cabalier]

anyone willing to host a RM server today for practice?

although I won't be participating in the tourney challenge, I can host RM later tonight (~8 PM est-ish) if you're still around then

[Phantom Brave]

WHY on EARTH would you place a tourney with a reward at such a time that people on the west coast with real life obligations can't sign up?

[notarctic]

WHY on EARTH would you place a tourney with a reward at such a time that people on the west coast with real life obligations can't sign up?

inb4 "hurr hurr its a tourney/challenge/whatever, if you cant do x y or z, too bad hurr hurr"

[cabalier]

WHY on EARTH would you place a tourney with a reward at such a time that people on the west coast with real life obligations can't sign up?

because the west coast doesnt matter and west coasters aren't people
but more seriously, you can't please everyone (we have east coasters and europeans and canadians and west coasters and an australian or two and a whole bunch of other people) and I think this time is a good compromise between east coasters and europeans

[Phantom Brave]

yes because people don't tend to have six hours of free time at the END of their day instead of the MIDDLE like this schedule assumes even if you're correct.

[B.illy S.O.D.]

Didn't RM disable Secret, where host has to unlock it?

Forgot about that, we'll probably ban q/c then.

WHY on EARTH would you place a tourney with a reward at such a time that people on the west coast with real life obligations can't sign up?

It's a test tbh. Once we figure out how much time it takes, we'll start moving the times of upcoming tournies around to give everybody a chance. If it's short, we could always host another tourney near the end of the day as well. Right now we're just figuring out stuff. Sorry if you can't join in on the first round :C

[Derpduck]

Didn't RM disable Secret, where host has to unlock it?

Forgot about that, we'll probably ban q/c then.

RM disabled Q/C for normal users but certain people can still use it legitimately. Not that it's a good class

[bustatunez]

This looks cool, and I've barely played randomizer, so I'll do my best to show tmw

[BassMakesPaste]

First of all, I'd like to point out that I'm West Coast and this makes me mad as hell. I can not do this at 11 in the morning.

Second of all, why the hell is this being done on Randomizer Mod? Most of the people who play Gang Garrison have never played it. It's obsolete at this point. The last time it was updated was 2 years ago--do you even know the engine upgrades that have been made since then?

This entire Raybann's event has been very poorly put together.

[Phantom Brave]

I don't care if it's "experimental". All you have to do is think shit through before you write the posts and it won't end up like this. Something feel like it might cause a problem? Replace it with something that can't possibly fail. Easy.

I for one will literally be asleep when this starts. I hope you take my raincheck.

[Sparky]

Hmm :S
There'll be 7 tourney challenges which are different than other challenges, so I guess organizers want people to try different things like Randomizer, maybe INS mod etc

Also it's impossible to organize something at a time that suits everyone Most of the players are EST or EU players imo, so 2/3/4/5 pm EST seems to be the time that suits the more people, but I guess that all the challenges won't be at this time, so everybody can play at least 3/4 tourney challenges Probably some challenges will be around 8pm EST or 11pm EST so west and est coast players can play together

well I think 

[Phantom Brave]

2 is just quite possibly the worst time that could have been picked

5:30 PM would suit people with schedules on the west coast as well as EUs that are willing to stay up late. it's not hard.

by the way you are vastly underestimating the sheer volume of "west of the mississippi" gg2 players.

[ZaSpai]

First of all, I'd like to point out that I'm West Coast and this makes me mad as hell. I can not do this at 11 in the morning.

I for one will literally be asleep when this starts. I hope you take my raincheck.

So a time shift to the weekend, perhaps Saturday 2-3pm EST (or even a bit later, since weekend) would be more acceptable? (Lack of sleep discipline is not a convincing argument, as an aside.)

EDIT:

2 is just quite possibly the worst time that could have been picked

5:30 PM would suit people with schedules on the west coast as well as EUs that are willing to stay up late. it's not hard.

Will keep in mind. (Also, I won't be able to make any tourney thanks to my living on the other side of the world, but you don't see me complaining. Perhaps it's because I'm an organizer.)

EDIT 2: Also assuming I remember correctly, PUGs are usually at 2-3pm EST anyways?

All you have to do is think shit through before you write the posts and it won't end up like this. Something feel like it might cause a problem? Replace it with something that can't possibly fail. Easy.

"won't end up like this" - Firstly the tourney hasn't even been hosted yet, please save your presumptuous remarks - whether they eventuate to be true or not - until afterwards.
Secondly, unlike the perfect workings of your mind, dear Wareya, we are working as a team unit on something completely new (Raybanns in general, not tourneys), and as you most certainly know from your wealth of experience there's going to be glitches along the way. Do people expect something perfect on first go? We can make concessions as things progress through the weeks, but if YOUR sole purpose is to pick at every imperfection that deviates from your ideal vision of whatever it is you'd like to call the Raybanns, please, I invite you to prepare an activity of this scale on your own.

Second of all, why the hell is this being done on Randomizer Mod? Most of the people who play Gang Garrison have never played it. It's obsolete at this point. The last time it was updated was 2 years ago--do you even know the engine upgrades that have been made since then?

Sparky answers this:

...so I guess organizers want people to try different things like Randomizer, maybe INS mod etc

This entire Raybann's event has been very poorly put together.

Please elaborate on areas of most concern from your point of view. (Actually, everyone please do.)

[Just Somethin]

I'll try to be around for this, even if i've only ever played RM once or twice at ^DOS^ events and if I remember correctly it was laggy as hell lawl

Also people complaining about the time, unless i've misinterpreted the OP you can still get 100% completion of the Raybans challenges without this, this is just an aside to give people who might not be able to get 100% of challenges completed on time another chance to win something cool.

[BassMakesPaste]

This entire Raybann's event has been very poorly put together.

Please elaborate on areas of most concern from your point of view. (Actually, everyone please do.)

1. The challenges, from a gameplay perspective, are trying and tedious. They encourage people to farm or to collaborate rather than to just play the game. Just try knocking someone off of the control point on sawmill or 2dfort so that they fall and you'll see what I mean.
2. You have set up a tournament with a VERY desireable prize at a time at which a select few members of the community can participate, using a mod which is outdated and long past its point of popularity.
3. You're playing dumb. You've been in the IRC. You've seen the complaints. I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

You forgot the entire purpose of the yearly competitions: To get people to participate in the community. If you're going to dredge up old mods and force people to play them for the competition, then you're disenfranchising new members who may want to begin their foothold in the community through the competition. I don't care if you think that it's optional. It's not optional because you offer a desirable prize. You want people to participate and you're going about it in the completely wrong way.

I am literally only here for the haxxies. I come back every year for them and fade away once they are over. I enjoy participating, but when you make it such a task, I feel less like coming back next year. I can only imagine what others are thinking, since I'm actually fairly devoted to this game.


Christ I'm fucking angry tonight.