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[Orpheon]

Does this thread really belong here?

[Phantom Brave]

closest board really

[ajf]

GML only has two types: real and string. This may surprise you since it seems to have objects. But objects aren't a type, so how do they work? Well, they are actually stored in variables as reals, which are effectively pointers or references to the object. Hence the . operator is quite special. It is really more of a -> operator than anything.

What does this mean? It means that this:

(17/3).x =7;

is valid code.

[Orpheon]

GML only has two types: real and string. This may surprise you since it seems to have objects. But objects aren't a type, so how do they work? Well, they are actually stored in variables as reals, which are effectively pointers or references to the object. Hence the . operator is quite special. It is really more of a -> operator than anything.

What does this mean? It means that this:

(17/3).x =7;

is valid code.

Do you know whether you can handle memory that GML doesn't understand? Aka run an extension to allocate memory, return a pointer and then use that pointer inside GML?

[Phantom Brave]

Orpheon: GML itself can only use strings and reals. The . operator looks up the instance associated with a given real. GM doesn't have any other sense of pointer whatsoever. Reals are 64-bit floats, so GM can't store most 64-bit pointers, only 32-bit addressed ones.

[ajf]

Yep. Also, this has made me realise that object and other resource identifiers are actually just real constants.

[Port]

GML only has two types: real and string. This may surprise you since it seems to have objects. But objects aren't a type, so how do they work? Well, they are actually stored in variables as reals, which are effectively pointers or references to the object. Hence the . operator is quite special. It is really more of a -> operator than anything.

What does this mean? It means that this:

(17/3).x =7;

is valid code.

there's worse
look up TorqueScript

this is valid in TS:
"hello".x = 33/5.y;

oh also it has like 4-5 individual namespaces
and objects can be referred to both as names and IDs

[Dusty]

So, Iunno if this is just standard or GML only, but I found out what some of the vk_'s ascii codes are equivalent to:

! - Pg. Up
" - Pg. Down
# - End
$ - Home Key
% - Left Arrow
& - Up Arrow
` - Right Arrow
( - Down Arrow
- - Insert
. - Delete

These are just the ones I've found so far though

[ajf]

So, Iunno if this is just standard or GML only, but I found out what some of the vk_'s ascii codes are equivalent to:

! - Pg. Up
" - Pg. Down
# - End
$ - Home Key
% - Left Arrow
& - Up Arrow
` - Right Arrow
( - Down Arrow
- - Insert
. - Delete

These are just the ones I've found so far though

they're constants, they're not meant to refer to anything :/

scan codes != ascii character codes

[Dusty]

Well I just thought it was interesting since keyboard_check() uses the ascii codes for letters, and then you can use the vk_'s in there as well.

[NAGN]

I think the vks are just mapped to certain constants to the key codes that can't be normally typed in the language (so page up, space, etc. etc.)

otherwise you can just use ord('e') or whatever character, just like in any other language

[Nukleus]

here's a good one: ds

[ajf]

here's a good one: ds

haha, yes. The ds_list/map/etc. data structures are OK, but the real question is why the hell does the language lack built-in support for them?

[Orpheon]

ITT GML is shit and should be burned.


Although what annoys me most is still the fact that there's no built-in support for the actual code, nor any open compiler. It might be an interesting idea to make an editor armed with gmksplit to edit gmk files without game maker (that would also be cross-platform), only idk how Yoyo games sees that legally.

[Phantom Brave]

lateralGM
...which gmksplit uses as a lib