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[CobaltBW]

Trog ninja'd me.

[trog]

But still, "If anything it makes it harder to dodge since you have to take into account the curve when you choose to jump."

[Sentry]

Official release is tomorrow right? Is the poster done?

[Phantom Brave]

But still, "If anything it makes it harder to dodge since you have to take into account the curve when you choose to jump."

But, that's wrong, still. It curving makes it so that it's easier to dodge because you ~can~ take it into account, moving left or right more easily when it's at a vertical angle. This is about airshots, not shooting on planes or downhill.

[CobaltBW]

But still, "If anything it makes it harder to dodge since you have to take into account the curve when you choose to jump."

But, that's wrong, still. It curving makes it so that it's easier to dodge because you ~can~ take it into account, moving left or right more easily when it's at a vertical angle. This is about airshots, not shooting on planes or downhill.

But again, this is assuming that the flare was designed to single out opponents at range, which I honestly don't think is the case. The flare is for harassment and suppression in areas where the firebug otherwise isn't strong, and if someone has to move in a specific direction in order to avoid the flare, then technically it's still filling its role by provoking a response. I'd also much rather have it be able to curve around corners for pretty much this same reason: to be able to hit people around corners.

Besides, this whole "which is easier to dodge" thing seems awfully situational, and almost too miniscule of a difference to really matter. Can we just solidify the role of the flare and work from there?

[trog]

But still, "If anything it makes it harder to dodge since you have to take into account the curve when you choose to jump."

But, that's wrong, still. It curving makes it so that it's easier to dodge because you ~can~ take it into account, moving left or right more easily when it's at a vertical angle. This is about airshots, not shooting on planes or downhill.

But then strafing is horizontal and not on the same dimension as flare curve so it's like tf2??

[Phantom Brave]

But still, "If anything it makes it harder to dodge since you have to take into account the curve when you choose to jump."

But, that's wrong, still. It curving makes it so that it's easier to dodge because you ~can~ take it into account, moving left or right more easily when it's at a vertical angle. This is about airshots, not shooting on planes or downhill.

But then strafing is horizontal and not on the same dimension as flare curve so it's like tf2??

the flare curve is along a 2d plane
the strafing in gg2 is on a 1d axis that is part of that plane
the strafing in tf2 is on a 1d axis that is perpendicular to that plane

I would know what the flare is supposed to be for, blue, I'm the fucking designer.

[trog]

I think rebel coded it originally...

[Phantom Brave]

I was the first one to propose the idea.

[Phantom Brave]

I may have proposed it in private, but regardless I'm the reason it made it in anyways. I made a counter-proposition of airblasting all projectiles with a damage bonus, but it was decided against in the long run.

[CobaltBW]

I would know what the flare is supposed to be for, blue, I'm the fucking designer.

Well, if the flare is for long range precision elimination, then by all means, keep the trajectory straight.

[Phantom Brave]

It's already designed to be less than useful if you hit someone who isn't already burning with it, so yeah.

[I_am_awesome]

I was the first one to propose the idea.

I am pretty sure I (and others as well) already said in 08 that pyro needs something to deal some longrange damage since he is buttfuck useless there.

The thought was more of a flare gun than airbursting flames, but the endresult is the same.

Well, not that I play anymore anyways. The (from what I hear, like I will test/look into the source) 30 damage flamebursts sound pretty OP anyways to me.

[trog]

its 25 fU:~

[Phantom Brave]

that's why they should not have the same refire rate as the airblast