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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2011, 02:01:50 pm »

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It's not fair that I enter Sci-Fi mod because I've been working on that thing for about as long as Rebel has been working on INSmod. It's not really fair to compare something with such a long production time to something being thrown together in a three week timespan, y'know?

But you can just draw pixels over those screenshots to make it 8-bit-ish and it's fine, I guess.

A) I'm going for authenticity with Halo mod (and Resident Evil mod), everything must be as close to the source material as possible, hence why I'm using cutouts from screenshots in the first place.. as well as many icons and crosshairs ripped straight from the game by Jordanlol.

B) Same issue with Sci-Fi mod, I've been working (and I don't even know how long Jordanlol worked on it before giving me the project) on that thing for about a collective 3 months. It's not fair to enter something that's been playtested and playtested so every bug's been picked out. It's not fair to enter something that has high definition HUD items and extremely unique features, some of which took weeks just to work out the code issues (like INSmod's features). It's just not fair to compare a full fledged game with months (or in INSmod and Sci-Fi mod's case, YEARS) to something whipped up in 3 weeks.

C) If INSmod is entered, that would mean that I'd lose instantly because no amount of imaginative features I can come up with can compare to.... THAT..  :z4:

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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2011, 02:06:09 pm »

Insmod can't be entered. Everything but screenshots needs to be made during the Haxxy Awards.
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2011, 02:25:50 pm »

Insmod can't be entered. Everything but screenshots needs to be made during the Haxxy Awards.

Yep! As I said, and as you said earlier in the thread, it's just not fair to those who'd been working on it for the allowed 3 weeks.. Though I'm definitely in agreement with Rebel that 3 weeks isn't really a lot of time to make a sprite mod (or ANY mod) that's really worth playing for longer than a couple minutes for a quick giggle. Consindering that our days are usually cut in half due to school/work/whichever, we won't have much time to work on our respective projects. It'll be a collective week and a half of work, and that's just not much time for anything spectacular to come from this competition..


SWBF2 Mod?  :woot:

Heavy Trooper could be Rocket Man, Droideka could be Heavy, etc etc.
Made a quick sprite of a Heavy Trooper, by the way.



Considering that Sci-Fi mod already has the heavy trooper in that same role, as well as numerous SWBF2 features and sound effects, your idea's kinda sorta already been done..  :z7:
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2011, 02:32:21 pm »

Wait, wait, wait, will people like Rebel and KZ get some sort of " 'no-life' time achievement " award?  Because they made these awesome mods that took months, even years?
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2011, 02:38:57 pm »

would a non-sprite mod be disqualified if you use one sprite, which you already made some month ago, in it? :V
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2011, 02:42:38 pm »

Wait, wait, wait, will people like Rebel and KZ get some sort of " 'no-life' time achievement " award?  Because they made these awesome mods that took months, even years?

Considering that (and I hope Rebel doesn't mind me speaking for him), if we worked on those mods every day and every free second we had, the mods would probably have been finished in about a month. It's safe to say that we do very much have lives that occupy our time and cause these mods to take so much time to complete!

We're just really dedicated to see things through to their completion, and manage our time wisely.. probably Rebel moreso (I don't really know Rebel's schedule or how often he works on INSmod), because I'll procrastinate on my mod projects for weeks on end. I haven't even TOUCHED Resident Evil mod since about May, and I haven't gotten on Neu's back to finish the code work for Halo mod since mid-June. IRL stuff and numerous distractions take up most of a person's time, these mods mostly get put on the back burner for more personal things, and more... admittedly FUN things.

tl;dr Mod work is hard, tedious work, and we usually put it off until we have nothing else to occupying our time or until we feel too guilty for not paying it any attention, and this is why they take so bloody-bollucks long to finish.


would a non-sprite mod be disqualified if you use one sprite, which you already made some month ago, in it? :V

One? Probably not.. but you'd have to ask one of the judges about that. I'd suggest asking your questions in your own thread instead of in mine, that way you'll get an answer a lot quicker. I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to help!
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2011, 02:57:15 pm »

I don't see why INS mod needs to win a haxxy.
It's a long-term project made out of self-satisfaction, rather than a fast-paced work of dedication made out of a desire to show off skill, which is exactly what community contests like this are intended to produce.

The work and pure awesomeness that's going into it deserves SOMETHING of an award, but you're right that the Haxxy shouldn't be that award (sorry Rebel!), since the goal is to whip up something in the time given, not to showcase something that you've worked on for a long long time. When it comes out, it'll no doubt win something, probably mod of the year. If my Sci-Fi mod could win, then THAT monster (which is way better than my Sci-Fi mod) will no doubt sweep the floor with my Resident Evil and Halo mods!

To be honest, I don't know why the idea that Halo mod wouldn't be fair to enter didn't occur to me earlier when I started this thread.. I should have known that something with as long a production time as that wouldn't be fair to enter alongside all these rushed projects everyone else is going to be entering.. Then again, if I didn't ask it, someone else probably would have, and if they didn't they would have been disqualified and gotten their feelings hurt. Maybe it's for the best that I embarass myself with this thread, for the benefit of others?  :z4:
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2011, 03:02:35 pm »

I don't see why INS mod needs to win a haxxy.
It's a long-term project made out of self-satisfaction, rather than a fast-paced work of dedication made out of a desire to show off skill, which is exactly what community contests like this are intended to produce.

The work and pure awesomeness that's going into it deserves SOMETHING of an award, but you're right that the Haxxy shouldn't be that award (sorry Rebel!), since the goal is to whip up something in the time given, not to showcase something that you've worked on for a long long time. When it comes out, it'll no doubt win something, probably mod of the year. If my Sci-Fi mod could win, then THAT monster (which is way better than my Sci-Fi mod) will no doubt sweep the floor with my Resident Evil and Halo mods!

To be honest, I don't know why the idea that Halo mod wouldn't be fair to enter didn't occur to me earlier when I started this thread.. I should have known that something with as long a production time as that wouldn't be fair to enter alongside all these rushed projects everyone else is going to be entering.. Then again, if I didn't ask it, someone else probably would have, and if they didn't they would have been disqualified and gotten their feelings hurt. Maybe it's for the best that I embarass myself with this thread, for the benefit of others?  :z4:

Yes. Me.
Thank you.

Though for some reason I'm allowed to merge a age-old mod with one I did for this.
Go figure.
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2011, 03:04:49 pm »

Yes. Me.
Thank you.

Though for some reason I'm allowed to merge a age-old mod with one I did for this.
Go figure.

You're welcome! And that's good news, I'll be looking forward to seeing the final product once you release it!
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2011, 03:12:08 pm »

Gah...I already made some sprites. :drool:
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And I can't do it myself because I don't have Pro and only have an intermediate knowledge of GML.
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2011, 03:14:22 pm »

would a non-sprite mod be disqualified if you use one sprite, which you already made some month ago, in it? :V
Nah, I said it a lot of times before and I'll sait it again, even if you do cheat, I can't prove anything, can I?
And know what, KZ, go on and enter with that halo mod, I don't really care too much. But you will make characters yourself, right? Or do you want to use screenshots as well?
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2011, 03:31:44 pm »

Gah...I already made some sprites. :drool:
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And I can't do it myself because I don't have Pro and only have an intermediate knowledge of GML.

Sorry.. if I helped you, I would pretty much just be copying/pasting 25% of Sci-Fi mod's content into your mod, which would not only be lazy (when the point of the Haxxy's is to make something awesome in the tiny window of time we have), but it wouldn't be allowed since all that content was made waaaay before the Haxxy's.

I guess you're on your own with that.. :z7:

P.S. As I said earlier, most of the stuff you'd be puting into your mod would have already been done by Sci-Fi mod.. I'm not trying to squash your enthusiasm, but it just seems off to be taking so many cues from Sci-Fi mod (not necessarily copying from it, more like.. taking cliff notes into a test).


would a non-sprite mod be disqualified if you use one sprite, which you already made some month ago, in it? :V
Nah, I said it a lot of times before and I'll sait it again, even if you do cheat, I can't prove anything, can I?
And know what, KZ, go on and enter with that halo mod, I don't really care too much. But you will make characters yourself, right? Or do you want to use screenshots as well?

The bodies for the characters (the standing still and walking frames), and most of the helmets will have been given to me by Jordanlol, making him a third creator, and that's against the rules. Granted, the taunting, stabbing, sentry sprites, most of the weapons and a few of the helmets will have been made by me, but 70% of the whole mod will have came from several premade sources.

I appreciate the gesture, Elkondo.. I really do..! But it just wouldn't be the honorable thing to do to let me enter it anyway. It'll be a great mod with loads of thought and work put into it, but with so much of the content coming from so many people at once, it's not only against the rules but it's also unfair.

I volunteered to help Jordan complete his mod when I noticed that he'd been working on it for almost a year and made no real progress on it. I'd been watching his thread for some time, wanting to see the finished product.. and when none seemed to be coming, I decided to lend him a hand.

Virtually ALL the HUD stuff will be coming from Bungie itself, all the sound effects will be coming from Bungie, and all the body sprites will have come from Jordan. All the code for the features will have came from Neu, and a large chunk of the sprites will have been drawn by me. With so many sources, it's just not right!

(And that's when I remembered a small but awesome mod idea I had a couple weeks ago but haven't started yet. The SOLID SNAKE MOD.)

Maybe I'll ask Neu to help me code up the Solid Snake mod.. Since it'll be replacing only one character, it won't require more than 3 weeks to finish (two at most if I really really boogy), and the loads of features, as well as sprites themselves, it might have just enough awesome in it to be worthy of entering!
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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2011, 03:39:15 pm »

I don't see why INS mod needs to win a haxxy.
It's a long-term project made out of self-satisfaction, rather than a fast-paced work of dedication made out of a desire to show off skill, which is exactly what community contests like this are intended to produce.

You don't know what you're talking about regarding the intent of my creation, therefore you shouldn't answer on my behalf. Thanks.

If I'm not allowed to enter the contest because of the time stipulation stated in the rules, that's fine. But that has nothing to do with why I created it.

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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2011, 05:10:52 pm »

the intention is irrelevant to the rules at hand.

and what you said isn't "unarguably true", because you're not a part of the development team, therefore you don't know anything about the project. you're making assumptions based on what you think is true, and what you think the meaning of the haxxy contest is.

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Re: Quick Question!
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2011, 03:05:42 am »

when did you start with the purple text?
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