The rest of that conversation, since I think it's worth putting here:
<ultros> Though personally I think maps like 2dfort work better (in public servers, at least) with longer respawn times, since you actually have time to grab the intel and get out after killing defenders.
<wareya> Dealing with respawning defense is one of my favorite parts about that map, though.
<ultros> I don't think it's balanced for defenders to get two chances to kill an attacker.
<wareya> It's like how campgrounds 1v1 works in quake live; the timing of the spawning is ridiculously important not to the balance but to how interesting things are.
<ultros> Never played Quake, so can't really appreciate the comparison.
<wareya> alright
<wareya> Keep in mind that it's a fort style map, with the intel behind the spawn
<wareya> The fort is the "heart" of the tense aspects of the gameplay
<ultros> Yeah, that's exactly the type of map that I feel merits a longer respawn time, for the reason I mentioned.
<wareya> That's how it's supposed to be, though, in my opinion
<wareya> fort maps are for pushes of stacking or situational advantage to pull a cap through
<wareya> Six seconds is practically perfect for a runner to go into 2dfort and get out alive, if they're nimble, before the defense respawns
<wareya> the only class literally unable to get the intel out is the heavy
<DrMalpractice> Not if he has a medic.
<wareya> and defending an intel with the timer running on it is a huge part of playing fort maps
<wareya> then the medic would get the intel and the heavy would cover his tracks
<wareya> usually
<DrMalpractice> True, but it's possible for the heavy to get the intel with a medic.
<DrMalpractice> It's just not smart for the heavy to keep it.
<DrMalpractice> Just thought I'd throw that out there.
<ultros> I agree with you about pushes if we're talking about more competitive matches, but in a public server there's usually only a few strong players, so I prefer a longer respawn because it enables more meaningful individual actions.
