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« Reply #135 on: February 14, 2011, 07:57:54 pm » |
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You don't seem to understand how brainless the extra 2 players can be, but still make a major difference. Constructors could just plop down a sentry and spam m1 in your general direction. Firebugs can rush you endlessly. They only have to be smart enough to know not to run straight into overweight fire, or when to retreat to get healed. As long as they know how to do that, the healer can build uber faster than the 4 man team one. It's bullshit for the 4 man team to deal with the added dps, that quite frankly takes no skill to do.
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« Reply #136 on: February 14, 2011, 08:51:16 pm » |
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i think with a 10 sec respawn you can pretty much rely on pubs giving easy picks for the heavy and solly, and the long respawn keeping them down long enough for the pros to fight the remaining pubs, and pretty much put the pubs into a cycle where they lemming rush one at a time rather than altogether. mids would be the most painful though, since the pubs would be forced into arriving at once and mass spam.
problem would be organizing pubs that dumb into playing a match
also ctf would be unplayable
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« Reply #137 on: February 14, 2011, 09:04:17 pm » |
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if you want to steamroll mindless pubs then just play an unorganized gg2 match No, seriously, half the matches I play these days are good players outnumbered by spamming pubbers This seems like the exact opposite of fun 
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« Reply #138 on: February 14, 2011, 09:06:50 pm » |
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None of the pubs I named lack enough experience for it to be not fun.
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« Reply #139 on: February 14, 2011, 09:08:39 pm » |
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None of the pubs I named lack enough experience for it to be not fun.
You realize maybe 2 of those people are actual pubs, right?
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« Reply #140 on: February 14, 2011, 09:12:11 pm » |
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None of these random ideas that you guys are presenting are ever going to fly. Did you ever put in any serious thought into how it will be organized, gameplay concerns or balance issues?
This isn't a dumping ground for random ideas. Stop posting them or I'm going to have to start deleting posts. You're accusing people of not putting enough thought into their ideas, but isn't that exactly why they're turning to this thread in the first place? It's pretty obvious you don't think very highly of the people in this thread, so you probably know what I mean when I say that a lot of people are too lazy or dumb to flesh out an idea by themselves. An idea is always going to seem flawless and hunky-dory at first, so you'll always have people dropping off their ideas here and bouncing them off of other people whether you like it or not. I think what's going on within the confines of the thread as of now is fine; people post their potential threads here so others can help discuss and shape the idea, or just shoot it down and bury it. What I mean to say is that this thread is already doing a pretty good job in restricting "useless random ideas that will never fly" from forming their own useless threads, and that asking people to simply "be smart you idiots" is a bit of a reach.
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« Reply #141 on: February 14, 2011, 09:17:34 pm » |
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None of the pubs I named lack enough experience for it to be not fun.
You realize maybe 2 of those people are actual pubs, right? You can have a forum account and be a pub. Bender admitted he was more of a pub than a "Pro," Clkiller posts like once in forever, same with Stonetribe, Ichigo is new so thus in my opinion a "pub," InvisiBull is a pub, I'm a pub.
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« Reply #142 on: February 14, 2011, 09:22:05 pm » |
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None of the pubs I named lack enough experience for it to be not fun.
You realize maybe 2 of those people are actual pubs, right? You can have a forum account and be a pub. Bender admitted he was more of a pub than a "Pro," Clkiller posts like once in forever, same with Stonetribe, Ichigo is new so thus in my opinion a "pub," InvisiBull is a pub, I'm a pub. >make 1500-2000 posts >delete account and make new one >call yourself a pub oic Clkiller/Stonetribe/Invisibull are pubs, I guess(Although they're still apparently active on the forums, just not POSTING), but Bender and Ichigo are quite active on here. Unless you're using "pub" as a measure of skill...which is not what it means to most people. I don't know why I'm even arguing this, it'll probably go down in flames anyway
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« Reply #143 on: February 14, 2011, 09:24:59 pm » |
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ichigo is exploding waffles who isn't new
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« Reply #144 on: February 14, 2011, 09:28:08 pm » |
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I've considered myself a pub from day 1 until I deleted my account the 2nd time. I've always considered myself a pub. It's why I don't compete in competitive matches or join tourneys. I'm much more at home in a pub match. Shit, even in the god damn TF2 Pubs vs Pros, they were pubstars, not random players.ichigo is exploding waffles who isn't new
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« Reply #145 on: February 15, 2011, 01:19:05 am » |
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If it does go ahead, it could be run by having, say, 4 teams of pubs, who take it in turns to fight the pros. And why not just make it 5 v 4? That would give the pubs an advantage, while they still have to use strategy to win.
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« Reply #146 on: February 15, 2011, 01:01:02 pm » |
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The Pubs vs Pros idea doesn't have to be so elementary as you're making it seem. In the TF2 Pubs vs Pros it's 6 v 9. There is obviously going to be measures taken to make the teams more evenly matched. I can think of pretty good Pubs vs Pros teams off the top of my head.
Pubs Pros Me wat Compushwa Stonetribe Trog InvisiBull Agh Bender Rodriguez uh he has like 80 posts here Vein Clkiller Ichigo Uchiha not a pub or new, he has like 700 posts
I don't see why this is such a bad idea to you. In terms of fairness, I think it's fair, if not sided with the Pubs. Teamstacking wouldn't be much of a problem if you use methods to curb it like the TF2 Pros vs Pubs.
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« Reply #147 on: February 15, 2011, 01:27:07 pm » |
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Has anyone thought of how hard it would be to organize this? "Pubs" aren't on the forums very much, and are not guaranteed to have Vinmod or any form of communication with the organizers.
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« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2011, 02:07:22 pm » |
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Everyone I named has vinmod.
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« Reply #149 on: February 15, 2011, 02:08:51 pm » |
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Everyone I named has vinmod.
stonetribe hasn't i think.
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