Fixing spy

[[nigs[ trog]

Not really sure what you're trying to say, sorry

[Phantom Brave]

Jesus christ, what is wrong with you? We're talking about like shooting someone with a rocketlauncher in quake and you're comparing it to like Age of Empires.

[♫Sani Sani Disco♫]

M1M1M1

Move out of the way

Rinse and repeat, sometimes grabbing the attention of the scout being hunted down by pyros and soldiers.

[[nigs[ trog]

Jesus christ, what is wrong with you? We're talking about like shooting someone with a rocketlauncher in quake and you're comparing it to like Age of Empires.

this is me not understanding the analogy

So uh what's your definition of spamming stabs? I'm having trouble grasping the concept that the average player is dumb enough to consistently fall prey to the stab spam I'm talking about.

M1M1M1

Move out of the way

Rinse and repeat, sometimes grabbing the attention of the scout being hunted down by pyros and soldiers.

seems pretty useless to me when you could just time 1 stab and waste 2 seconds rather than randomly click and waste 6. The fact that pubbies hardly use it kinda shows how inefficient it is, as they use the most useless of tactics.

[NAGN]

in my opinion if we were to buff any part of the spy it would be the time it takes to put the knife back inside and recloak

so basically you can easily get away whenever you fail a stab, currently doing a face stab on anything but a stationary object is kamakazi

[[nigs[ trog]

Pretty much my reasoning as well.

Would do the same thing that DR idea did, makes getting away easier.

[Phantom Brave]

I just got three five stabs doing nothing but spamming on normal gravity.

[[nigs[ trog]

Compare that to how many you can get if you actually time the stabs?

[Wherewolf]

Are we balancing the game for the average pubber or for people with brains? If we only care about the dumb people then spy is perfectly fine atm.

[Phantom Brave]

Compare that to how many you can get if you actually time the stabs?

Are you fucking retarded?

[♫Sani Sani Disco♫]

I thought we were making a game that appeals to as many people as possible. Apparently that's baaaaad.

[Alfred]

The hitbox thing is kinda fixed now anyway. It runs a collision line check before anything happens.

And what's wrong with the hitbox!? That was my first sprite

Also, many less problems when people use the revolver more. Come 2.3, that should happen. I might chuck a cooldown (post stab) reduction in one of my horribly buggy getas at some point just to see how it works. Tomorrow maybel If I can wake up before 5PM for once :/

[Lloyd]

And yet it's possible to spam stabs in a group of people and never hit them once, or miss because someone randomly decided to hit a or d for the first time in 10 seconds. Not to mention it's almost impossible to hit Runners unless you see them coming from off-screen.

Speeding up the animation as a whole might make stab spamming too fast, I hadn't considered that. Maybe if the stab animation was kept the same length, but the actual stab happened a few frames earlier...

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It took me like a minute to write this out -_-

[Alfred]

Lloyd, checkout the past para in my post above. Thats what you mean, yes?

[Phantom Brave]

We should make the stab time shorter (or at least make the "stab" happen sooner) and make the mask last for one frame. Where the stab mask is now, timing-wise, is pretty much perfectly horrible.