Fixing spy

[nealshireman]

noooo don't change the speed of the stabs :<

[♫Sani Sani Disco♫]

The speed of the stabs is fine. Besides, we'd have to resprite the animations if we sped them up. Er, if we want them to be fluid, anyway.

[Phantom Brave]

Lowering the speed of stabs would take a lot of particular frustration out of the game, on both sides, and move it to being a more tactical tool than a spam one.

[trog]

How do you spam stabs without getting raped?

I think you mean there's a lot of luck involved.

[NAGN]

but even with the lowered stab times, there's still a fair amount of prediction, and doesn't make it much more appealing to er... not spam

[Phantom Brave]

Lower times = people care about stab spamming.

How do you spam stabs without getting raped?

I think you mean there's a lot of luck involved.

Nope. You don't need luck to spam.

[trog]

I think you're either talking about a different kind of spam, or spy's other weapon. You can't spam stabs unless you're on a crowded control point where people are too busy fighting other stuff to notice you.

But even then you're lucky they were focused on something else and not you.

[Phantom Brave]

You don't even know what stab spam is. I've watched you fucked up dealing with spamming spies on ctf_orange.

[NAGN]

hm do you mean "make the hitbox destroy itself quicker" by faster stab?

[trog]

You don't even know what stab spam is. I've watched you fucked up dealing with spamming spies on ctf_orange.

those guys that stand on the intel stabbing repeatedly? I don't really think that's a problem for people who aren't lagging.

[♫Sani Sani Disco♫]

Trog, until you understand that the average player doesn't spycheck all the time because there are nine other classes that can kill him much faster, you will not understand the effectiveness of stabspam.

[trog]

Why do they need to spy check if the spy is just standing in one spot showing himself?

I don't think it's a very effective strategy to be honest.

[NAGN]

wareya stop ignoring me and answer my question

[Psychopath]

wareya stop ignoring me and answer my question

It lasts for like 3 frames before self-destructing. I doubt altering how brief it lasts will have a significant impact on gameplay.

[♫Sani Sani Disco♫]

Why do they need to spy check if the spy is just standing in one spot showing himself?

I don't think it's a very effective strategy to be honest.

What happens when they're firing backward, which is where 'backstabs' happen. Passive invisibility, right? A mechanic lag can't defeat.
Since the stab's hitbox is so grotesquely large, what happens when someone accidentally runs too close to avoid the stab?

More notably, the first, since its more common