Fixing spy

[NAGN]

teams are usually only six people strong

maps are tiny

therefore it's much much easier to spot disguses if you know how to use the scoreboard (since it also shows the classes too)

[aptanananananator]

Part of the reason we want diguises is so that there can be more mind games. Instead of a heavy and medic, it's a spy and combat medic. Instead of 3 - 4 rocketmen, there's some spies in that group too.

But WHY. Any decent spy can mindgame just fine by firing a couple revolver shots off then hiding or returning to base, if people are terrible at spy that's not our job to fix. We should be balancing by what the class NEEDS, not by how bad our player base is.

[Dusty]

Just because we have one way to use mind games, doesn't mean that should be the only way.

[aptanananananator]

It also doesn't mean we should add some unnecessary feature that may only confuse. A much better buff would be this:

I'd really just like a slightly faster stab along with the revolver buff.

[Dusty]

Confuse -> Mindgames = the point.

[NAGN]

in my opinion, it's a benifit to keep things simple though

[Orpheon]

Part of the reason we want diguises is so that there can be more mind games. Instead of a heavy and medic, it's a spy and combat medic. Instead of 3 - 4 rocketmen, there's some spies in that group too.

But WHY. Any decent spy can mindgame just fine by firing a couple revolver shots off then hiding or returning to base, if people are terrible at spy that's not our job to fix. We should be balancing by what the class NEEDS, not by how bad our player base is.

I agree with Aptanor, though nobody will really care.

[Dermott]

Wouldn't icons and text on top of the spy that pretty much double his height look silly too?

Also how does q/c in gg2 not look really stupid?

I'd rather have the left two rather than the right two.

I'll admit the right two look pretty retarded, but the left two would take up way too much space. Incorporating it into the class sprite would take up a lot less space. Maybe have the class symbol on his suit?

Nobody remember the Tarzan's and JaxOf7's disguise sprites?

I did small changes, I think that would be perfect 

[Lloyd]

If stab speed is increased then the airstab hitbox shouldn't need to be so ridiculously huge anymore to compensate

[Dusty]

Erm, the stab hitbox is the same for all stabs.

[trog]

but stab speed increase means relearning it O:

[[BBY] Anonymous[GGI]]

but stab speed increase means relearning it O:

 

[zhengman777]

Even though disguising as your own team works in TF2, it's really only because you have limited cloak plus the ability to disguise as the opposing team.

I mean, you guys have a point there with the mind games, but honestly, when I see three rocketmen approaching me, I don't shit my pants and change classes. I'll change my own approach and try getting some damage in regardless, but maybe that's just me.

[Lloyd]

Erm, the stab hitbox is the same for all stabs.

I mean the hitbox shouldn't extend so far out anymore

[Trueblade]

Hmm... how about reducing the cooldown time after the actual stab? Might give people more of a chance to deal with any enemies going after them after a stab