School Thread

[[nigs[ trog]

In text citations should have page or paragraph numbers, and you should really be putting one any where you say something that isn't common knowledge (paraphrasing), not just when you write a direct quote.

Also long quotes start on a new line, have an indent on both sides, and no double space.

And although citing Wikipedia in the bibliography is okay, using it as in in text citation is not a very good idea as it implies you couldn't find another place that says it. Just cite the place Wikipedia cites for it instead.

[TwilightSparkleburst]

Uhh...why do you get minus points for citing Wikipedia? Someone took information, and concentrated it, and put that on wikipedia (after having given all sources). You should cite that if you use it, not some other source which that person used.

If someone wants to retrace your sources, they can always do so, because wikipedia cites them.

It's possible to vandalize Wikipedia. It's relatively more difficult to vandalize, say, a research paper. Similarly, have you ever made edits to Wikipedia adding some information or whatnot without going on the Internet, finding a trustworthy citation, citing it, etc.? Some people obviously have - there is information on Wikipedia that's not backed up, whereas someone writing a newspaper article or something would have a tendency to be more rigorous.

Also, the purpose of citations are to make it as convenient as possible to find your sources, so making people look on the Wikipedia page for the information you've found and then look for the citation is considered bad, especially since Wikipedia only has periodic citations. Like, let's say you go to the page for orange juice. In the first section ("Health"), there's a citation that tells you about the acid content, but all the other information isn't cited. If you find that uncited on Wikipedia, you can't really trust that. However, if you find that uncited in a scholarly paper, you can trust it because you figure the writer knew what xe was doing.

Honestly, at this point, a lot of things aren't much better. I mean, some guy on the Internet with a web site is hardly trustworthy. But the idea is, in college, you're going to be citing mostly papers by people with degrees in the subject, and Wikipedia doesn't have that level of rigor. Or - at the very least - people don't think it does.

[Past]

played Spelunky in physics today while half the class watched me on the projector.

feelslegitman

[Brooklyn, The Beautiful Princess]

e3 featuring a huge faggot

[Meat]

TL:DR version;
   While I agree that wikipedia is fairly legit, (since most articles get LOCKED now) your job is not to argue with the teacher, it's get a good grade or your boned.

[Smokey Joe]

The teacher said to only use one general source (e.g. Wikipedia) but I'll ask her if it's specifically allowed to use it as a citation.

[Past]

e3 featuring a huge faggot

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[Dusty]

anyone ever play 1000 blank white cards? I did at lunch today and it was hilarious. Someone played a card that said "all the losers get to slap the winner of the game in the face." Everyone started to frantically try to lower their points before the game ended.

[Machidro]

anyone ever play 1000 blank white cards? I did at lunch today and it was hilarious. Someone played a card that said "all the losers get to slap the winner of the game in the face." Everyone started to frantically try to lower their points before the game ended.

Loved that game. Only problem is getting someone to supply the cards.

My group got complex with it, we had both your standard point cards, and attack cards which would remove points from others. Bit like a more manic yugioh.

[Dusty]

We have those too, and also effect cards which do fun things like the 'slap the winner' above or useful things like swapping points or hands.

[Unsung Hero]

Never heard of that game, to be honest.

But I suddenly really want to play it. I'm a sore loser.

[Machidro]

If you want to play, here are the unspoken "rules" my friends and I use in order to keep such a ruleless game generally cohesive, if it makes the game more fun any rule can be omitted or added:

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1. Take about 40 blank white cards, distribute 5 to each player, make a draw pile on a table.

2. Before making cards, agree on a general minimum point denomination size that you will use throughout the game on cards. Points may go above it to any level, but not below. This prevents each player from producing cards which are effectively useless for actual play (i.e, 10 point cards vs. 10,000 point cards).

3. Tell each player to convert four of their blank white cards into cards, with the format of cards being: Title at top, image in center related to title, and effect on bottom. It is also recommended for players to put your initials on the card discreetly. Cards may have any effect except automatic victory, including rule changes, combat units, field cards, point increases, etc. You can set new victory conditions with field cards, but people should agree the game has a state of closure should someone invoke them, if not, play continues. Players may produce cards whenever they choose throughout the game if they have a blank white card, but it is bad form to do so on your own turn; it wastes other player's time.

4. Games are turn based starting with the person that brought the cards and moving right. You play a card, follow the effect on the card, and then tabulate score effects.

5. All cards are assumed to target a single chosen target and be expended unless pointed out by the user or card otherwise. In a rule dispute, the final decision goes to the uninvolved players. If all players are involved, go with the majority position.

6. Play continues until one of three predecided conditions are met: The draw pile runs out, players use all available white cards, including the ones in their own hand (Not recommended, last turn dickery 99% ensured), or a victory condition is met with all players agreeing the game has reached a state of proper closure.

7. Once this condition is met, tabulate score. Highest score wins. Since score is meaningless when you can write a card worth infinite points, score is mainly kept for fun and to invoke rules on throughout the game.

8. Once the point round is over, lay out all cards face up, and tell players to pick a set number of favorites. These favorites should be saved for future games to be added to the draw pile. The person who created the most cards favorited wins the card round; this winner is generally agreed to be the actual winner
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[Big Boss]

I was reminded today of a science lab in middle school that required a pint of human saliva

A friend gave me warning at break that it was going to be that lab that day
I told my tablemates, and when class started we just stopped swallowing our spit.

The teacher gave us our cup about halfway into class, and as soon as he turned his back, we all unloaded into the cup. He came back around with a few rubber bands for the salivation-challenged students to chew on to speed up the process, and saw our full cup, opposed to the other cups around the class not even 1/8th of the way full.

His only response was-

"how in the hell did you 4... you know what, I don't think I want to know."

Bros4lifemiddle school

[Unsung Hero]

lol

What'd you need the saliva for, anyways?

[Chu]

why were you using customary measurements in a science class